More Information: Theology Resources

Here are some of the resources that are helpful in talking about this week's sermon series.

Books on God

Systematic Theology: An Introduction to Biblical Doctrine

The Christian church has a long tradition of systematic theology, that is, studying theology and doctrine organized around fairly standard categories such as the Word of God, redemption, and Jesus Christ. This introduction to systematic theology has several distinctive features: - A strong emphasis on the scriptural basis for each doctrine and teaching - Clear writing, with technical terms kept to a minimum - A contemporary approach, treating subjects of special interest to the church today - A friendly tone, appealing to the emotions and the spirit as well as the intellect - Frequent application to life - Resources for worship with each chapter - Bibliographies with each chapter that cross-reference subjects to a wide range of other systematic theologies.

Desiring God

Scripture reveals that the great business of life is to glorify God by enjoying Him forever. In this paradigm-shattering classic, newly revised and expanded, John Piper reveals that the debate between duty and delight doesn't truly exist: Delight is our duty. Readers will embark on a dramatically different and joyful experience of their faith.

 

Systematic Theology : God is in Control

Pastor Stephen
Thanks for the reply, And I was greatly encouraged, after our last meeting,and I believe of all my heart that you desire to preach Christ.
I have just listen online to your rather eloquent sermon on "God is in Control" a very favorite clichee used by Christians today, Permit me to make a few comments.

No-where in the scripture is the words "God is in Control",used!
but if you look in 1 John 5:19 NIV it clearly says:
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one..
in your sermon I noticed not once any referral to the Evil one!
Yet scripture do refer to "it" .
Would it not be more proper to say the ones submitting and accepting Christ, are under God's protection,and control? and leave it at that?

you referred to the Lords prayer in your sermon. If we look at
Matthew 6:9-1o NIV
9"This, then, is how you should pray:
" 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
10your kingdom come,
your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

it's clearly a prayer for God's will to be done on earth,as it is in Heaven. That is contradicting to the clichee "God is in Control" I noticed you read it as" May we do your will ,as it is is heaven.. There is a huge difference there.

Why do I write this? not to discourage you, But to open eyes to what scripture teached ,contrary to most systematic Theology.
Systematic theology is a method of teaching according to reformed theology, and it attempts to logically make scripture acceptable, and it fails miserably.
is it all bad? by no means no. But when one start out wrong, the end result often also becomes wrong and clouded. To many people it does put God in a box,with limitations on what he can do. ie, predestination,Limited Grace. etc
I have no other systematic theology to offer,except the Scripture.
May we diligently study the word, without trying to make it fit into a faulty doctrine of Calvin.
BMS

Systematic Theology: Valuable and Dangerous

Pulling verses out of context is very dangerous...we all agree. So to counteract this practice, we look at the context of the verse to make sure the meaning we are getting is accurate. but beyond that, we look at the rest of the Bible because we also believe that God's word is consistent. Iff we come up with a meaning that contradicts something else in Scripture, we need to figure out where we went wrong. This practice of looking at the Bible as a whole unit is called Systematic Theology.

The Value is that we are able to understand doctrines of the faith in a more complete manner. We can look at one passage in light of another, as facets of the revelation given to us. This is one of the reasons why pastors in the EFCA need to write a doctrinal statement with supporting passages listed, and then need to defend those conclusions at an ordination council. The question before the council is, "Can this guy look at specific passages and understand them in light of the whole of God's revelation?"

The concern is that we build too much of a system on order for everything to fit neatly, such that everything that does not fit neatly is called a "difficult passage to interpret" or "unclear." When we have built conclusions from scripture, that is ok, but when we build conclusions based on the conclusions we have drawn, as a sort of pyramid, the layers of conclusions that are more distant from the text itself may be false. To the degree that not everything has been revealed to us, together with the truth that God is wholly different from us, farther from the Bible is closer to heresy.

I quote the Theopedia:

"Systematic theology integrates biblical, historical and sometimes philosophical theology into its methodology, and its main goal is to draw a clear description of what the Bible teaches about a particular doctrine. Furthermore, systematic theology not only looks to biblically construct individual doctrines of the Christian faith, but remains aware of the cause-effect relationship of each doctrine. That is, on the one hand, if one doctrine is changed, effects will take place in other areas of doctrine. On the other hand, each doctrine has implications for other doctrines. For example, within the doctrine of Christ (i.e., Christology) the belief in Jesus' resurrection means that we are not left in our sins (cf. 1 Cor 15:17). Jesus has conquered sin, and those who are in Christ also experience this victory (cf. Rom 6). Moreover, Christians have a future hope that they too will be resurrected and experience eternal life. These are just a few of many other examples of how each doctrine is interrelated to one another. In the end, systematic theology should naturally flow into practical theology where the conclusions drawn from Scripture are made applicable to the Church." http://www.theopedia.com/Systematic_theology

Lastly, by way of reference, there is a page on Regent University's site that lists the major Systematic Theology books by Doctrinal Persuasion here. Just to note from a prior post, Grudem isn't listed among the reformed theologies because many reformed theologians don't like sections of the book. In fact, Grudem's ST doesn't fall neatly in any camp...which is why I like it.

God's Control

I think there are two senses of "control" that are at work in our discussion.

Control in terms of Authority- This is the sense in which "God is in control"-ultimate authority and  power such that any control he gives to  others could be rescinded by him.

Control in terms of direction, restraint, actions. This is the sense in which we have our ability to be self-controlled and self-willed. Satan would fall into this category of having freedom to do evil. Inherent in the command of God at creation that man and woman would "subdue the earth and rule over it" is the ability to exercise control. But part of the curse was that the earth would be unruley, and harder to work.

Some verse about God's ultimate authority and control over all things:

Satan is under God's authority: "The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your hands, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”  Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord".  -Job 1:12. God has the power to restrain or to free Satan to act.

All of Creation except the Father himself is under Christ: "For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ." -1 Corinthians 15:27. Paul is being so inclusive about the authority of Christ that he has to say "Everything but God, that is"

Human Leaders are under God's control: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. " -Romans 13:1

As the Sovereign Lord of the universe, God is in complete control, even in his ability to subject the evil one to Himself at the end of days (Rev. 20:7-10). You are right in saying that the evil one has control over this world (1 John 5:19), and he does cause evil left and right...but in the preceeding verse that it seemed you were aluding to in saying that those who submit to God are under God's protection and control. But in 1 John 5:18- The fact that the evil one cannot harm one who is born of God means that God must have some kind of power over the evil one to restrain him from harming them.

By referring to God's control...I was teachiing about the authority He has over all of creation. And that He is at work in creation, working things for good, for those who love God. (Rom. 8:28) I clearly did not say that free will is some kind of "smoke and mirrors" trick, but rather I affirmed that we are truely free in our actions...but at the same time God is sovereign. We cannot help but to affirm both of these.

That we pray "your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven" is not to contradict "God is in control" in the first sense. It does remind us that humans are not doing what God wills. But then the question comes up, "Why do people not do God's will if He is really all-powerful?" And the answer is that He created people with a level of self-soveignty...that is, God has entrusted a piece of His sovereignty to them. This comes out in Hebrews 2:5-9, that the earth is subject to humans, even though we don't experience (see) that in practice. But we do see Jesus glorified to that position of ruler over all.

One the opposite side from Reformed Theology there is a newer theological position called Open Theism that affirms that God is stuck in time just like the rest of us and that God doesn't know the future because it hasn't happened yet. It limits God's knowledge, and it limits God's power, such that He is merely reacting to events in real time. It is easy for us to understand, and that is why it is gaining some popularity...except that it is not scriptural. And in this way you and I will always agree...the Bible is our authority, and any system that falls away from scripture in order to make sense to us is a failure. I'm going add a separate post on the value and concern of Systematic Theology.

On Systematic Theologies

BMS-
Thanks for the post. My conviction hasn't changed from our conversation about this almost two years ago. I think that the sermons on the character of God will bear that out. While I do not agree with everything that Grudem or Piper formulate concerning reformed theology, I beleive that Grudem's Systematic Theology is one of the most complete and accessible theologies out there. When I had Grudem at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, he obviously had to sign the EFCA statement of faith, and taught within those bounds. For the series on God's character, I used a number of sources from several theological traditions. But indeed, some of the classics on God's character like Knowing God, by J.I. Packer, The Knowledge of the Holy, by A.W. Tozer, or The Attributes of God, by A.W. Pink come from a reformed tradition. Maybe it is because they are so big on God, that they have written these works. If you have another systematic theology to recommend, please do.
You don't have to fear for Dix Hills (though prayers for us are surely welcome) because we are committed to the gospel, to repentance from sin, to following Jesus with our day to day actions. We are committed to the authority of the Scriptures. Even in this series, I have challenged people to faith in Christ...and one person came to Christ the first week!
I look forward to more interaction with you.
Stephen

a comment on Systematic theology

Pastor Stephen. You know I'm not fond of the reformed Theology, and not happy to see it proclaimed in Dix Hill Ev Church. The free Church has always taken the middle road on that subject, but with the proposed changes in the statement of Faith, I fear greatly for our church that I have supported over 40 years. BMS

Praise God For Reformed Theology!

I rejoice that the EV Free Church and many Baptist Churches are rediscovering the God glorifying beauty of Reformed Theology! As a worship leader I have found no other theology that places more focus on the supremacy and sovereignty of Christ! I have sat under and personally known RC Sproul, John Piper, Michael Horton and Wayne Grudem for many years and thank God for using these Godly men to help the church take the focus off man and put it back on God where it belongs! Reformed Theology is "God Centered Theology"! In this age of "Pelagian Evangelicalism" and the "therapy Gospel" it is a breath of fresh air!